Curse

Master Knightfall · Jan 10, 2008, 11:05 PM // 23:05

Haha the slups that paid out the nose for soemthing they THOUGHT was exclusive now have just brown stuff left on their noses. hahahahahaaha I got GWEN for less than $20 in a store, got the BOX and a nice MAP and all kinds of goodies in the box and just waited this out. I expected NCsoft to pull some crap like this and I was right though I really didn't want them to I knew they would do it "for the money" eventually and screw everyone that bought through their store. I saved $20 overall while others paid through the nose. hahahaha

You can't see me · Jan 10, 2008, 11:07 PM // 23:07

Hello, let me introduce myself. I am the concept of bait and switch. Many companies will use me in their marketing to release an item that is understood by the public to be a one time limited offer, which I assist them in making a lot of money they would not have made otherwise. Then, I turn around and, presto-chango! A few weeks/months later the same product is released again, but the company denies my use because they had never actually confirmed that it was a one time offer, only understood by the public as one. I was happy to help in the release of the bonus mission pack, and I have no doubt we'll meet again. Ciao.

My Humble Opinion:

Arenanet should have done more to stifle rumors that it was exclusive if it's Rep is so hard up on the fact that they never claimed that it was, and if she wants to hold claims previously made that Arenanet is not like other money grubbing companies. No offense Gaile, but seriously, if it was not Exclusive and it was understood that it was, more should have been done if Arenanet wants to send these new messages or release the BMP for sale.

Nevin · Jan 10, 2008, 11:10 PM // 23:10

Ahhahaha let the insanity commence!

Lonesamurai · Jan 10, 2008, 11:11 PM // 23:11

Online Store: GW:EN was £29.99 (£24.99 after the £5 preorder pack) and i got BMP for FREE

GAME (UK store): GW:EN was retailed at £29.99

For the same price I got the BMP instead of a box, a 16 page manual and a map...

And I feel better because ANet/NCSoft got more of my cash instead of the middleman and I got an extra 4 repeatable missions and cool new weapons...

Aerian_Skybane · Jan 10, 2008, 11:14 PM // 23:14

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

So, instead of paying $15 a month, we pay $40 for an "expansion" that probably wasn't worth $40, and $10 - $30 for a BMP?

The only thing saving Guild Wars is the fact it's free to play. If it's pay-to-play with bonuses, then it loses some luster. Sadly, I think that's the direction that GW2 is headed towards - some kind of free-to-play "basic" Guild Wars 2, and a "leet" Guild Wars where you have to pay for extra content.

Although I generally think you of more even minded, I can't let this one go Mord

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There is a large difference between the BMP and the SF free addition. The BMP is exclusive, non-character cannonical material. As in: You can play the BMP as much as you damn well please, but it won't affect your character beyond being able to weild a few more shineys to show off. The SF had a massive impact on gameplay and material that your permanent characters could play in and evolve in. BMP (regardless of some peoples notion that bonus = free or that promotion = limited to one time only) only affects the permanent world by adding non-gameplay altering, "unfarmable", non-economy changing aesthetics. Therefore I feel that there can be a charge for it since it isn't game-altering.

I agree, since we aren't the "evil geniouses" in charge of ANet, that they could be using this as a vehicle for pay2play content, but I honestly think its merely aesthetic in nature while adding a fun little non-permanent side story to the game. It is not near the immersion factor of SF, but if they did charge for say, a new explorable area where Orr used to be and charged 10 dollars for that to have my main characters access, then I would dissapointed because that is merely pay2play in one form.

And since ANet is so adamant about their business plan, I doubt we will see that.

As for all the QQ about being lied to and all that fun stuff, I don't even want to stick my test the waters, thats hornets nest of overextended soothsayers and zealous defenders of the way.

Anduin · Jan 10, 2008, 11:16 PM // 23:16

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

Again: it wasn't...
GW:EN costed less on retail, therefore costing.

I only think this would cause more QQ to be honest.

At Witchblade: I think your post was kind of fuel for this argument...i seriously and undoubtably want this argument to stop...

Maybe for you.

Don't assume that everywhere else had a cheaper price than the online price, because your area did.

It was 40-46.99 around where I live.

BigT · Jan 10, 2008, 11:17 PM // 23:17

All i have to say is if you didnt SEE THIS COMING, then you are a complete R-Tard. Think it threw, Anet is producing a brand new game atm, they are putting all of their work into GW2 and are exsentialy going to stop working on GW. People are greedy, and they are going to want more money in the long run, and they are sitting on some missions that half the fanbase wants, and are willing to buy. You cant tell me you honestly didnt see this coming.

Neo Nugget · Jan 10, 2008, 11:19 PM // 23:19

So they actually did it......

So are they just gonna rename it to the mission pack rather than bonus mission pack?

pint · Jan 10, 2008, 11:20 PM // 23:20

I'm just so happy that I wasn't forced to spend money at a time that wasn't convenient for me. Now I only have to spend $10 at my leisure when you guys sunk $30. Sucks for you guys.

Offering the BMP for sale is the most amazing thing to happen to Guild Wars. Prove me wrong.

pygar · Jan 10, 2008, 11:23 PM // 23:23

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Originally Posted by Drop of Fear

the last 2 days the bmp promotion was running a big banner camped gw login screen saying "these are the last few days for your to apply for the promotion and be eligible to play the bonus mission pack"

can't go wrong when such a banner camps your game login window

Unless you werent playing GW when the offer was valid, but have since bought everything because you love the game, for me the banner on the log in screen for a game i wasnt playing yet didnt help much.

ensoriki · Jan 10, 2008, 11:23 PM // 23:23

People bought Iphones for 800 dollars was it?
Then apple dropped the price about 2 months after its release
People bought the PS3 for 800 now its 400 to 500
Same with xbox360
Same with the latest technology like graphics card and motherboards

OMFG I got it first...the price has to stay the same
Why is it 9$'s now T_T

Expect price drops whenever your a first release buyer

That is all.

Master Knightfall · Jan 10, 2008, 11:25 PM // 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anduin

Maybe for you.

Don't assume that everywhere else had a cheaper price than the online price, because your area did.

It was 40-46.99 around where I live.

You could have gotten it from Amazon.com just like I did for less than $20 the last couple of months. If you want to be first inline you have to pay the price, if you don't mind being near the end you get reasonable deals and pay half or less of the price. So, don't go QQing about how much it was in your area. Learn to have patience and wait and you'll get the same products everyone else gets for 1/2 or a 3rd of the price they pay.

T. Drake · Jan 10, 2008, 11:27 PM // 23:27

Well I gues it's good for me (although there is still the payment issue)
Bad for those who thought that this pack will be an exclusive offer.

Is it worth the money anyway?

Phoenix Tears · Jan 10, 2008, 11:27 PM // 23:27

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Originally Posted by Elisa

No, read my post. It should be hardest in Holland as we have no need for credit cards. Fact is, like in The States, anyone over 18 can apply for a credit card in Europe.

then i'm sry that I understood false, I was sure, it sounded like your were saying that U#ve had no problems with getting credit cards in in the netherlands.

But thats also naturally, as you mention it, something that regards in, what age you are.

warcrap · Jan 10, 2008, 11:28 PM // 23:28

yay no more rip off.

Eugaet · Jan 10, 2008, 11:28 PM // 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by ensoriki

People bought Iphones for 800 dollars was it?
Then apple dropped the price about 2 months after its release
People bought the PS3 for 800 now its 400 to 500
Same with xbox360
Same with the latest technology like graphics card and motherboards

OMFG I got it first...the price has to stay the same
Why is it 9$'s now T_T

Expect price drops whenever your a first release buyer

That is all.

That analogy doesn't work. Let me know when you realize why.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Knightfall

Learn to have patience and wait and you'll get the same products everyone else gets for 1/2 or a 3rd of the price they pay.

But we couldn't wait. The BMP promo had an ending with no reason to believe it would ever be available to obtain later. Those who waited are getting more product than those who didn't, regardless of the price.

pygar · Jan 10, 2008, 11:30 PM // 23:30

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Originally Posted by T. Drake

Well I gues it's good for me (although there is still the payment issue)
Bad for those who thought that this pack will be an exclusive offer.

Is it worth the money anyway?

10 bucks for 4 (maybe 5) missions that are based on the bits of backstory GW has created for itself, reward for completed quest your choice from a long list of "perfect" weapons with nice skins but no mods that are customized for you so you can not sell or trade them....totally worth a ten spot to me, no second thoughts about it.

Have spent the most of my GW time so far in nightfall, cant wait to play the Turai Ossa versus Palawa Joko story.

Zehnchu · Jan 10, 2008, 11:33 PM // 23:33

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

You think this is a positive?
Stuff like SF used to be given for free. I think this is the exact opposite direction, adding more and more content at a charge is inching closer and closer to "monthly fee" style of payment structure.

I felt that ever since they added the online store.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AW Lore

i disagree, yes the SF free update was nice and all, but Anet has to have a way to earn some money between campaigns, i mean, its not like they make this mission packs every month, and you dont have to buy the mission pack to keep playing the game or progress in the games storyline.

They really don't need to sell content like the BMP, how do you think they got the money to make the game in the first place?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two April Mornings

This sucks for all those who bought extra stuff to get "exclusive" content.

I can’t say I feel sorry for all of them, they got what they deserved. I like people who will blindly throw money they don’t need my way. What’s worse is that everyone who wanted to waste money asked for it. What’s even better is that everyone will ask for the same stuff for GW2.

Eugaet · Jan 10, 2008, 11:38 PM // 23:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zehnchu

I like people who will blindly throw money they don’t need my way.

I can't afford to blindly throw money at anyone, which is why I spent months deciding what I was going to do. I decided the better deal was to buy online to get the BMP at the sacrifice of getting a physical box to proudly display next to all the CEs. I was wrong in my decision.

Angelica · Jan 10, 2008, 11:41 PM // 23:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icey

So why exactly are those upset, upset about? Because other people can buy the BMP now right? How is that not selfish again?

Really, I don't care about the BMP being offered now, what I don't like was/is the way they promoted it. They gave the impression that if you did not take the BMP at that time you would miss it.

People cannot read and interpreter every words trying to discover hidden meaning, come on Anet be more clear in the future. I do not wish to have to check every words, like you do before you sign a contract, for every promotions they will offer.

Meh, my trust for them is really low at this moment.

/Angelica